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Robert Gift
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TWO (2) JEWELLS (Have not found the jewels.)
UNADJUSTED
57 ?
Looks old and tired.
Rectangular case slightly enlarges from bottom to top almost resembling the New Orleans style natural gas lamp \_/ I.nstalled on the livingroom wall.
(Surprised thathe suspension wire is not broken. The pendulum was lying at an angle off its hook.)
The wire was coming out of its bottom hook -||||-____ bent 90º. Now appears hanging normally. -|||||-
OK to use 0W-16 full synthetic motor oil on the pivots?
OK to oil the pallet's pivots?
Nice that it iso small. From case floor the clock is only 5-5/8" tall inside.
Shall try to post photos.
Thank you.
MartinM
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The jewels are on the anchor shaft.
If the roof of your clock is four sloped sides it's common name is, "London Coach". If the top is curved with a bow on top, it's known as a, "Bermuda Carriage". Best not to oil the anchor pivots and pallets. Otherwise, 0W16 should be fine.
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MartinM said:
The jewels are on the anchor shaft.
If the roof of your clock is four sloped sides it's common name is, "London Coach". If the top is curved with a bow on top, it's known as a, "Bermuda Carriage". Best not to oil the anchor pivots and pallets. Otherwise, 0W16 should be fine.
You are right! London Coach.
Thank you.
But discovered thathe glass front and sides are plastic!!!
Not worthe $39 I paid for it.
($20 on Saturday, but I could not get to that store, especially early.)
Plan to take the clock back if I can gethere before the return period expires.
(If not a 3:09 a.m. bloodelivery, I try to go to thrift stores on the way home.)
Schatz Table Clock
Table watch in brass and glass -sized glasses with visible mechanism. Show with hours at Roman numerals and brand of the printed manufacture. Mechanism not tested. This piece is attributed to the mentioned designer/maker. It has no attribution mark and no official proof of authenticity...
www.chairish.com
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Take it back? Why? Schatz put plastic panels on those clocks...and others...over time.
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$39 is not a bad price IMHO.
Yes, post some photos.
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This is the Schatz miniature movement and is the smaller sibling of the Schatz 54 1000-day clock. The only thing to watch out for is that the rear pivot for the anchor is carried in the saddle bracket. One of the screw holes in the bracket is slightly elongated, which allows a small amount of adjustment; this is how you set the pallet drop. It is a good idea to mark the back plate before removing the saddle bracket so you have a baseline to work from when you reassemble it.
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These clocks came with glass only from their introduction in mid 1954 through around November of the same year. All subsequent versions for the next decade or so came with plastic
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MartinM said:
These clocks came with glass only from their introduction in mid 1954 through around November of the same year. All subsequent versions for the next decade or so came with plastic
How unfortunate that Schatz puts plastic panes in their cute little clock.
Because of breakage in transit or saving some pfennigs?
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Others were doing it as well. Probably for both of the reasons you state. Towards the end, mechanical clocks were not on people's minds anymore. Electric, battery power, and quartz clocks were on the near horizon so clock makers had to do whatever they could in order to survive for a few more years.
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KurtinSA said:
Others were doing it as well. Probably for both of the reasons you state. Towards the end, mechanical clocks were not on people's minds anymore. Electric, battery power, and quartz clocks were on the near horizon so clock makers had to do whatever they could in order to survive for a few more years.
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Thank you.
Understood.
Thoughthathere would stilbenough market for real clocks.
Athrift stores anniversary clocks are always facing right or left. People like me looking to see if real or quartz!
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I fail to understand how your clock isn't "real".
The heyday for these clocks was the 1950s.
Mayhaps you should only look for clocks that are from 50 years prior.
Of course, you'll be spending waaaay more for them.
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MartinM said:
I fail to understand how your clock isn't "real".
The heyday for these clocks was the 1950s.
Mayhaps you should only look for clocks that are from 50 years prior.
Of course, you'll be spending waaaay more for them.
A real Anniversary clock is mechanical, not a quartz movement fake made to look like a real anniversary clock.
I'll never be able to afford old real clocks unless found at garage sales or thrift stores. Recently found a synchronous motor clock which requires turning a knob in the direction arrow. Of course it is keeping perfectime running backward.
Now reading 2:50 which means 9:10
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Your original post seemed to indicate your clock is a mechanical clock made in 1957. Has someone converted it to use a quartz movement? If so... I'd love to see how they did that.
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MartinM said:
Your original post seemed to indicate your clock is a mechanical clock made in 1957. Has someone converted it to use a quartz movement? If so... I'd love to see how they did that.
Mechanical. 400-day on face. Stops running after a few minutes. Perhaps "running" is just decaying momentum I created by turning the torsion "pendulum".
Shall try oiling to see if that helps get morenergy to the pendulum. Should find a suitable key and wind it a little to feel how tighthe spring is wound.
(Would hate to take it to someone who knows whathey are doing.)
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I think I'm done.
I'll just leave you with this:
https://theindex.nawcc.org/Articles/Murray-400-day.pdf
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Likely needs a complete service, to be taken all apart, if you wish to a have a running clock. I would not try to learn on this clock, better ones to learn on. If you take it to be serviced, obviously it will cost more than the worth of the clock, your choice.
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