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TWO (2) JEWELLS (Have not found the jewels.)
UNADJUSTED

57 ?
Looks old and tired.
Rectangular case slightly enlarges from bottom to top almost resembling the New Orleans style natural gas lamp \_/ I.nstalled on the livingroom wall.
(Surprised thathe suspension wire is not broken. The pendulum was lying at an angle off its hook.)
The wire was coming out of its bottom hook -||||-____ bent 90º. Now appears hanging normally. -|||||-

OK to use 0W-16 full synthetic motor oil on the pivots?
OK to oil the pallet's pivots?

Nice that it iso small. From case floor the clock is only 5-5/8" tall inside.
Shall try to post photos.
Thank you.

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The jewels are on the anchor shaft.
If the roof of your clock is four sloped sides it's common name is, "London Coach". If the top is curved with a bow on top, it's known as a, "Bermuda Carriage". Best not to oil the anchor pivots and pallets. Otherwise, 0W16 should be fine.

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MartinM said:

The jewels are on the anchor shaft.
If the roof of your clock is four sloped sides it's common name is, "London Coach". If the top is curved with a bow on top, it's known as a, "Bermuda Carriage". Best not to oil the anchor pivots and pallets. Otherwise, 0W16 should be fine.

You are right! London Coach.
Thank you.

But discovered thathe glass front and sides are plastic!!!
Not worthe $39 I paid for it.
($20 on Saturday, but I could not get to that store, especially early.)

Plan to take the clock back if I can gethere before the return period expires.

(If not a 3:09 a.m. bloodelivery, I try to go to thrift stores on the way home.)

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Schatz Table Clock

Table watch in brass and glass -sized glasses with visible mechanism. Show with hours at Roman numerals and brand of the printed manufacture. Mechanism not tested. This piece is attributed to the mentioned designer/maker. It has no attribution mark and no official proof of authenticity...

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$39 is not a bad price IMHO.
Yes, post some photos.

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This is the Schatz miniature movement and is the smaller sibling of the Schatz 54 1000-day clock. The only thing to watch out for is that the rear pivot for the anchor is carried in the saddle bracket. One of the screw holes in the bracket is slightly elongated, which allows a small amount of adjustment; this is how you set the pallet drop. It is a good idea to mark the back plate before removing the saddle bracket so you have a baseline to work from when you reassemble it.

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These clocks came with glass only from their introduction in mid 1954 through around November of the same year. All subsequent versions for the next decade or so came with plastic

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MartinM said:

These clocks came with glass only from their introduction in mid 1954 through around November of the same year. All subsequent versions for the next decade or so came with plastic

How unfortunate that Schatz puts plastic panes in their cute little clock.
Because of breakage in transit or saving some pfennigs?

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Others were doing it as well. Probably for both of the reasons you state. Towards the end, mechanical clocks were not on people's minds anymore. Electric, battery power, and quartz clocks were on the near horizon so clock makers had to do whatever they could in order to survive for a few more years.

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KurtinSA said:

Others were doing it as well. Probably for both of the reasons you state. Towards the end, mechanical clocks were not on people's minds anymore. Electric, battery power, and quartz clocks were on the near horizon so clock makers had to do whatever they could in order to survive for a few more years.
Kurt

Thank you.
Understood.
Thoughthathere would stilbenough market for real clocks.
Athrift stores anniversary clocks are always facing right or left. People like me looking to see if real or quartz!

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I fail to understand how your clock isn't "real".
The heyday for these clocks was the 1950s.
Mayhaps you should only look for clocks that are from 50 years prior.
Of course, you'll be spending waaaay more for them.

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MartinM said:

I fail to understand how your clock isn't "real".
The heyday for these clocks was the 1950s.
Mayhaps you should only look for clocks that are from 50 years prior.

Of course, you'll be spending waaaay more for them.

A real Anniversary clock is mechanical, not a quartz movement fake made to look like a real anniversary clock.

I'll never be able to afford old real clocks unless found at garage sales or thrift stores. Recently found a synchronous motor clock which requires turning a knob in the direction arrow. Of course it is keeping perfectime running backward.
Now reading 2:50 which means 9:10

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Your original post seemed to indicate your clock is a mechanical clock made in 1957. Has someone converted it to use a quartz movement? If so... I'd love to see how they did that.

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MartinM said:

Your original post seemed to indicate your clock is a mechanical clock made in 1957. Has someone converted it to use a quartz movement? If so... I'd love to see how they did that.

Mechanical. 400-day on face. Stops running after a few minutes. Perhaps "running" is just decaying momentum I created by turning the torsion "pendulum".
Shall try oiling to see if that helps get morenergy to the pendulum. Should find a suitable key and wind it a little to feel how tighthe spring is wound.
(Would hate to take it to someone who knows whathey are doing.)

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I think I'm done.
I'll just leave you with this:

https://theindex.nawcc.org/Articles/Murray-400-day.pdf

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Likely needs a complete service, to be taken all apart, if you wish to a have a running clock. I would not try to learn on this clock, better ones to learn on. If you take it to be serviced, obviously it will cost more than the worth of the clock, your choice.

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FAQs

How to adjust a Schatz anniversary clock? ›

On Kundo and Schatz clocks, turning the regulating disc clockwise slows down the clock; and turning it counterclockwise speeds up the clock. Some brands of 400 day clock regulate in the opposite direction. The clock usually has labels to tell you which way to turn the disc.

How to speed up a 400 day clock? ›

Timing Adjustments

Timekeeping is carried out on these clocks by moving the balls or pendulum weights in or out. As weights are moved outwards, the clock will slow down. As the weights are moved inwards, the clock will speed up. On clocks with balls there will be a serrated adjusting disk just above the balls.

Why won t my anniversary clock keep running? ›

The spring being bent is the number one cause for most of these clocks not working. I would venture to guess that this is the reason for about 80% of these clocks that need repair. They are cheap to replace and it is an easy fix if your the patient type.

Can you overwind an anniversary clock? ›

Luckily, the truth is that you can't over-wind your clock. Over-winding is basically a myth! Let's take a look at what actually causes a clock to quit running or chiming after winding it up…

How do you wind a Schatz clock? ›

To wind fully, give the spring 3 to 4 further turns with the key. Please turn anti-clockwise. Do not force the spring, wind only until you find that the key will not readily turn further. when fully wound, your Schatz clock requires no further winding for 400 days.

Why won't the pendulum swing on my clock? ›

First make sure the clock is level both ways front to back and side to side. If your pendulum after starting it swinging and stops after a few minutes it might be out of beat or a pendulum clock will stop when it has been moved, bumped or even a too aggressive push to restart a pendulum.

How to wind an anniversary clock without a key? ›

Improvised Key: Look around your home for a small, cylindrical object that can act as a makeshift key. Items like a pen cap, a small screwdriver, or even a paperclip can be used to wind the clock. Choose a tool that fits snugly into the winding arbor and gently turn it in the clockwise direction to wind the clock.

How long does an anniversary clock run? ›

The “anniversary clock” is called that because it'll run for about 400 days on one winding, so you can wind the thing on your wedding anniversary, perhaps making a celebration of the ritual.

How does a 400 day anniversary clock work? ›

The pendulum of this clock is locked and unlocked by a lever which is located in front, or in back, of the clock at the bottom of the base. When the lever is moved to an extreme right position, the pendulum is raised and locked; when it is moved to the extreme left position, the pendulum is lowered and is "free".

What does RA mean on a clock pendulum? ›

French "retarder" meaning to delay or hold back. "Avancer" to bring or move forward. Usually indicated on pendulums as "R A" and on watch regulators as "R A" or "Retard" "Avance".

How do you adjust the time on an old pendulum clock? ›

If the clock is running fast, move the bob down or turn the nut to the left. If the clock is running slow, move the bob up or turn the nut to the right. Restart the pendulum and reset the clock hands to the proper time. It is easy to remember: lower is slower and left is lower.

How do you sync clock chimes with time? ›

Strike Synchronization using hands:

Move the minute hand clockwise until it passes the number 12 and the clock strikes. Count the number of times the clock strikes, then move the hour hand to the number the clock just struck.

How do you adjust a French carriage clock? ›

Either on the back plate of the clock or on the platform escapement you should see the letters F or S (this represents fast or slow). Should the clock gain time, move the steel lever to S (slow) or if it is slow turn it to F (fast). The adjustment of the regulator should be done in very small movements.

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